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Post by smiley. on Aug 17, 2007 10:57:58 GMT -5
The thing is, I'm so jealous of Stephenie Meyer. I mean, Jk. Rowling is retarded. She's a drug addict, but she doesn't go to jail cause she's famous. I mean, Stephenie Meyer is writing the book that 'everyone is talking about' I wish I could come even that CLOSE
gahhhhh!!!
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Post by smiley. on Aug 17, 2007 17:06:18 GMT -5
I've come obsessed with writing in First person.
I don't know, third person seems as though you are just telling a story, first person makes it seem autobiographical.
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Post by smiley. on Aug 17, 2007 17:10:27 GMT -5
But I HAVE figured out something. I am NEVER going to write a singular book. I simply loathe when you read an incredible book, but it is the ONLY book there will ever be. I LIVE for trilogies and series and stuff like that. I THINK I'm going to write in trilogies with a MINIMUM of three books, and a MAXIMUM of seven.
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Post by kittywinkins on Aug 17, 2007 17:19:42 GMT -5
Au contraire.
I have no clue about those rumors about taking drugs, but drugs or not(Don't forget Barry Bonds probobly took steriods to help him make the homerun record) she's still a really great author. All those spells, like Avada Kedavra, which comes from Abra Kedabra, which has such a sinister meaning behind it! And veritaserium, coming from Latin! And... though I know I'm going to be murdered in my bed for throwing in theology... but look at all the Christian resemblances! for example, seven being the most powerfully magical number.. count all the sevens in the bible, if you like: forgive your brother seventy times sevn, the seven seals in Revelation, the seven plagues and the seven years of good crops and then the seven years of famine in Eygypt...
It's funny to listen to the local pagans go on about how wonderful Harry Potter is and then they find out all the links to Christianity and they get mad.XD
But anyway... I'd rather be like Llyod Alexander. He's partcially recognized, though not half so popular as Rowling or Myers, despite his great literature(and guess what? I have only counted two of his books(the Time cat, and also the Town Cat and other stories) that DIDN'T have a bit of romancce in it, though it may not be half so graphic and touchy-feely as Stephanie Meyer's is)(THough personally, I like Alexander's take on 'falling in love' way better than all of these dramatic mushy romance novels. Pride and Prejudice not included in that cetegory, by the way.) and guess what? it's not so hard to read as it seems! And the Chronicles of Prydain are a lot better than a lot of junk out there today.
So yes.. I'd like to be a writer that's a mix of Tolkien and Alexander. Or maybe O.R. Melling, who wrote the pwnsome Irish faerie books, or even Ursula Le Guin, who wrote the even more pwnsome Earthsea trilogy....
...But J.K. Rowling most certainly is NOT my idol. Oh.. and by the way, Smiley.. Warriors isn't really pure full-throttle fantasy. If you want full-throttle fantasy, read the Silmarillion, or The Princess and the Goblin. You'd be hard put to find a book more fantastical than those. Warriors is just bearly scraping Fantasy. Sure, there isn't really any other category to put it in, but it definately is NOT pure fantasy, and I would never ever ever ever EVER, not once in my LIFE put it on the same shelf with books like Redwall, Viking Quest(a series I love but I'm guessing at LEAST half of everybody here would hate hate hate hate HATE), Robin Hood, or The Hobbit. Shoot me for saying it, all you rabid Warrior fans, but the truth is, Warriors simply is not the best thing out there.
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Post by kittywinkins on Aug 17, 2007 17:24:41 GMT -5
I'm going to write a single book. It will be quite long, and it willbe called hte Ledgend of Thyme. It's pure pure fantasy, about an 'other wordly' kingdom called Thyme. It's outside our universe, and there there are these mythical creatures(elves, faeries, hobgoblins, the like) who are specially trained and called Guardians. And they make sure that everything in our universe, and the other kingdoms run smoothly, and that they don't collide.
It's going to be one book. I've already figured out the ending(and my readers will HATE me by the end. Yippee!) and the beginning.. just gotta clear up the plotline for the middle...
Oh, and I like writing in third person. I dunno.. it's just really hard for me to write well in first person. Oh, and of course, I HATE second person. It gets sooo annoying after about five pages! What I really hate also, are books that are telling what's happening right NOW, instead of a past event. For example: Instead of, Stormy got up out of bed and yawned. She lumbered into the kitchen to make some toast, and there she saw a huge hulking purple hairy green polka-dotted monster lurking near the sink.
It's, Stormy gets up out of bed and yawns. She lumbers into the kitchen to make herself some toast, and there she sees a huge hulking purple hairy green polka-dotted monster that lurks near the sink.
Grr. It's sooooo annoying!
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Post by Cari on Aug 17, 2007 17:39:44 GMT -5
Wow- I don't think i belong in this conversation lol! XP I've never really thought about writing much- but after reading your posts it makes want to write! And, I have to agree with you Stormy, warriors in fun to rp- but they aren't the best books out there.
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Post by kittywinkins on Aug 17, 2007 18:11:55 GMT -5
No.. certainly not....
Oh.. and if anyone says that Eragon is great fantasy, I swear I'll kill them.
I've considered many careers over the years: teacher, veterinarian, professional ballerina, astronaut, but I think I'd rather be an editor, journalist, writer, poet, and in my spare time(HA HA!) a fantasy artist.
Oh.. I also wanted to by an Olympic gymnist at one time, but I'm not flexable enough, and I'm not good at much of anything but trampolining. I suck at bars.
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Post by Cari on Aug 17, 2007 19:46:06 GMT -5
I've never read Eragon... why is it bad? Yeah- I really don't know what I'm going to be right now. I LOVE the theater and acting, so that would be cool, or I'd also like to be a zoologist, entomologist or a marine biologist. Who knows. *shrugs*
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Post by queen on Aug 18, 2007 0:01:06 GMT -5
Oh, man. I abhore Eragon. I gave Eldest a chance; borrowed it from my cousin to read. Never again.
JK Rowling, meh. I’ve never liked Harry Potter. I just don’t like the story or Rowling’s way of writing. It never flowed in my mind when I read it. Even when I was little and got the first one, I really just did not like it. I don't think she's stupid and I could care less about her doing drugs, though. I respect her as a writer, because I do see how other people would enjoy her books.
And of coarse, since I don’t like it and never have, my mom always has to jump into my explanation of -why- I don’t enjoy Harry Potter with her spiel. “Oh, she didn’t like it when she was little so it must be psychologically wired into her mind not to like it by association buhbuhbuh, buhbuh, durdurdurdurdur.” She’s serious when she says it. People agree[/u] with her. If it were any other book, no one would say that and no one would agree. xP
I never saw the Christian aspects of it, though. I always related it more to a WW2 sort of feeling, what with Voldemort having aspects similar to Hitler’s (Didn’t get to teach at Hogwarts, so now he hates it; hates muggles yet is one himself, stuff like that).
I agree with you two, on Warriors not being real, hxc fantasy. Nor is it the best thing out there. I’ve only read the first few, and that’s all I intend on reading. It just didn’t capture my attention well enough to get me hooked. The concept is, however, very fun to “rearrange.”
As for the career part of what y’all are talking about, I’ve always, always, always wanted a career as a fantasy illustrator. I’ve toyed with the idea of writing articles, being a food critic, advice columnist, that sort of thing, but I really don’t know if I’ve got the right stuff for it. I-very briefly, mind you-wanted to be an animator, but then I realized how freaking hard it is, especially traditional animation. My gosh. If none of the artsy stuff works out, I’ve always got Science to back me up. I love biology and zoology, especially. One of my top-secret dream jobs is to strap cameras onto penguins. I swear, people make a living off of doing that.
(Oh man, I wrote too much. :c)
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Post by kittywinkins on Aug 18, 2007 0:18:31 GMT -5
Technically, if Voldy were a muggle, then he couldn't use magic. But I know what you mean. I'm just being a bish.
After I read the first few books of Harry Potter, for one year while I was eight or nine I LOVED Harry Potter. It was the best thing EVER. And then the LOTR movies started coming out, I re-read the LOTR books when I was about nine and a half, and I snapped out of the HP faze. Ever since, I've refused to like Harry Potter too much just because it's too popular. However, I'm always happy to tell other people that their theories are completely idiotic and stupid. It's sooo much fun to shoot down the stupid rediculous theories of middle school girls.
Have you read the Earthsea trilogy, Queen? They're some of my favorite books. The first one is... Wizard of Earthsea. Sci-Fi did a movie on them, though they changed a bunch of things around. The books are much better. I read the first and second when I was in the hospital two or three years back.
The Warrior books I are really good, I must admit. However, I'm getting really sick and tired of them. And especially after a summer of reading nothing but these really brilliant murder mysteries by great authors like Anthony Horowitz and Marcus Sedgewick, they just seem so... dull. Redwall's better. My big complaint about the Warrior books is that they aren't descriptive enough: They're written for a young audience with a short attention span, and so they don't have the long, beautiful descriptions that books like 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, The Last Unicorn, and the Redwall books have and I love those long descriptions. I dunno... Warrior's just doesn't make me really SEE things, and I'm a pretty visual person.
As for careers, Carri, I also love acting and theater arts, and I've been told I'm pretty good at it, but I'm not sure that's really what I would want to do as a profession. I wouldn't mind writing scripts and directing plays, though. A food critic would be fun, Queen, though with my allergies, it'd be a hard profession for me to go into. The only other thing outside art that I would ever really want to do, is to join the police, or, even better, become a detective/FBI person.
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Post by queen on Aug 18, 2007 0:59:59 GMT -5
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I’m just putting into my simpleton “skip to the end after a chapter or two before the movie comes out-er” words. I don’t know, I just...never liked it. Never had a phase, nothing. I never understood the obsessive people who break out the two toned, striped scarves and black bath robes whenever a book or a movie comes out. They remind me of those Jimmy Buffet “Parrot Heads”. Funny and goofily cute the first few times, but gets overdone and verging on more of an addiction then an innocent hobby. Oh! That’s another thing. You can shoot me for my lack of taste, hang me in the town square, but I do not like LoTR. I blame it on watching the movies first. They were just so boring! My mom loves them and the books, but seriously, I start drooling and daydreaming after a few bits of dialogue, snap out of it for the big action-scene, then go back to the drooling. I’ve seen the Earthsea books on discount at Barnes&Noble a few times, but I’ve never picked one up. I’ll take a gander next time I go to the library or the store. A friend read them and said they were good, too. All good points as well. I kind of dropped it off gradually more so then just coming to a halt; I read a brilliant fantasy novel who’s title escapes me now, a few chapters of Warriors, Lord of the Flies, maybe a chapter of Warrior’s, and started The Green Mile (still haven’t finished. D: Too many vidja games, not enough readin’); so that kind of enticed me away from anything else not as captivating. I did get the whole “wait...my brain’s picture’s not done yet. GO BACK GO BACK GO BACK” feeling a lot, now that I think about it. I need all those nice, meaty details to flesh everything out or I tend to get confused easily. If I “loose track” of the picture, sometimes I go back and reread the sentence or whatever I left off at. I read a whole freaking lot of “hxc” fantasy, so I’m used to those big flowery descriptions. There is one series I’m really addicted to that’s directed at a much lower audience then myself, I usually can read them in one night if I get hooked enough. It’s called Gaurdians of Ga’Hoole, I read the first in fourth grade, and even if I took a disliking to it now, I guess I’d just “have” to know what happens in the end, anyway. I took a theatre class last year; the teacher was an old, slightly humpbacked old woman who was extremely crazy (not “fun” crazy, I’m talking “are you sure you shouldn’t be taking some form of medication and/or be retiring soon”) and I was kind of uninterested during the whole thing. I just don’t have a passion for it. As far as I know, I’m not allergic to much other then a certain prescribed medication. And the idea’s always sounded fun to me. Along with being a movie critic, if only for the reason I’d be able to see movies before most people. :3 Police/FBI work always sounded cool to me, but I’m a little pansy and I know I’m not cut out for that kind of stuff. The sight of real guns IRL scares me, I can’t imagine having to carry one, even knowing I hopefully would not have to use it often. I’m terrible at interrogating and detective work too, so oh well. :c
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Post by kittywinkins on Aug 18, 2007 2:20:05 GMT -5
My eleven-year-old friends both LOVE Warriors and Harry Potter. They're Buddhist(or at least, their Mom is. They're not really Buddhist, they're just pagans) and one thinks that the world of Harry Potter really exists out there. I think that's so stupid I want to rip it apart with a carving knife, it's just soooo frustratingly idiotic to me!
I have the first and fifth book of the Guardians books, but I haven't gotten around to starting them yet.. I want to finish the Golden Compass first. Yeah, there's a lot of really trashy fantasy books out there. A series I reeeeally love, that is so totally awsome are the Faerie Chronicles by Herbie Brennon. He is such a brilliant writer! The first one is called... Faerie Wars. Then... Purple Emperor. And the third is Ruler of the Realm, and he'd d**n well better write a fourth one because if he doesn't and leaves me hanging then... grrrrr! They are soooo awsome. They're really good fantasy, adventure, he does a pretty good job on descriptions, and they have all this cool stuff, and a couple of really gross parts, but they're just so COOL! If you haven't read them, then you really should!!!
My Dad read The Hobbit to my whole family when I was seven. After that, we read the trilogy when I was about eight. I've loved them ever since. The movies did a fair job, except the left out Tom in the Fellowship, and I really did like the encounter with Shelob being at the end of the Two Towers. It really leaves you hanging. Though I understand that if they DID do that, it'd have been way too long, but still. I won't kill you for disliking LOTR, so long as you don't think Harry Potter is better, K? =D
I have too many interests: I've never been able to love just one thing, and the only thing that I could ever say later in my autobiography that I've loved to do for as long as I could remember is painting. I love to write, but I can get bored with it very easily(Which is why I like poetry so much. I rarely get bored with it) while Watercolor fields are forever... right?(oh.. wait.. that was strawberry fields. Nevermind.)
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Post by smiley. on Aug 18, 2007 11:29:16 GMT -5
...But J.K. Rowling most certainly is NOT my idol. Oh.. and by the way, Smiley.. Warriors isn't really pure full-throttle fantasy. If you want full-throttle fantasy, read the Silmarillion, or The Princess and the Goblin. You'd be hard put to find a book more fantastical than those. Warriors is just bearly scraping Fantasy. Sure, there isn't really any other category to put it in, but it definately is NOT pure fantasy, and I would never ever ever ever EVER, not once in my LIFE put it on the same shelf with books like Redwall, Viking Quest(a series I love but I'm guessing at LEAST half of everybody here would hate hate hate hate HATE), Robin Hood, or The Hobbit. Shoot me for saying it, all you rabid Warrior fans, but the truth is, Warriors simply is not the best thing out there. Of course it's not full-throttle fantasy. Warriors is simply describing in Erin Hunter's view of explaining cats' behavior. But, I don't want that kind of fantasy. And basically, with Meyers and Rowling, I would never wish to be that famous. I actually want to be more of a Daniel Handler (also known as Lemony Snicket ) he is famous, but just for those that like his books. He's had a movie about his book, and that would be awesome.
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Post by smiley. on Aug 18, 2007 11:34:46 GMT -5
I'm going to write a single book. It will be quite long, and it willbe called hte Ledgend of Thyme. It's pure pure fantasy, about an 'other wordly' kingdom called Thyme. It's outside our universe, and there there are these mythical creatures(elves, faeries, hobgoblins, the like) who are specially trained and called Guardians. And they make sure that everything in our universe, and the other kingdoms run smoothly, and that they don't collide. It's going to be one book. I've already figured out the ending(and my readers will HATE me by the end. Yippee!) and the beginning.. just gotta clear up the plotline for the middle... Oh, and I like writing in third person. I dunno.. it's just really hard for me to write well in first person. Oh, and of course, I HATE second person. It gets sooo annoying after about five pages! What I really hate also, are books that are telling what's happening right NOW, instead of a past event. For example: Instead of, Stormy got up out of bed and yawned. She lumbered into the kitchen to make some toast, and there she saw a huge hulking purple hairy green polka-dotted monster lurking near the sink. It's, Stormy gets up out of bed and yawns. She lumbers into the kitchen to make herself some toast, and there she sees a huge hulking purple hairy green polka-dotted monster that lurks near the sink. Grr. It's sooooo annoying! Me too, believe me Stormy. If I EVER see a book written in Second person, I immediately put it down and THROW.IT.OUT. And I hate current events. I probably will maybe right one small series in first person, as it would eventually get annoying reading 'I' and 'we' all the time. the rest I'll write in Third. I hate current, ESPECIALLY in first person. Making your readers hate you as in they really hate you, or the ending is so incredible that they hate you for not making it continue? I LOATHE books that don't have a hanglider. I like books that make me want to read more because they constantly...GAHH. Like Running out of Time by Margaret Peterson Haddix. BIG Hanglider.
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Post by smiley. on Aug 18, 2007 11:38:17 GMT -5
No.. certainly not.... Oh.. and if anyone says that Eragon is great fantasy, I swear I'll kill them. I've considered many careers over the years: teacher, veterinarian, professional ballerina, astronaut, but I think I'd rather be an editor, journalist, writer, poet, and in my spare time(HA HA!) a fantasy artist. Oh.. I also wanted to by an Olympic gymnist at one time, but I'm not flexable enough, and I'm not good at much of anything but trampolining. I suck at bars. I hate warriors now. The first series was incredible, the second was okay... I am NEVER going to read it again, and if I do it's so that I can be caught up. I LOATHE The sight, it was the WORST BOOK I'VE EVER READ. You know the VERY first sign of a bad author? They don't know when to quit. Authors need to stop writing that particular series before they go overboard. And I've also considered many careers: First it was a teacher. Then it was a singer. Then it was a chef, then it was an interior designer. And now and author.
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